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Super Chat Part 15: The return of that one guy with the thing.
#41
No mods for Fallout 4 or Skyrim on the PS4. I am suprisingly emtional about this, kind of scary.
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#42
The first Old Firm league soccer match in four years is tomorrow at Celtic Park and of course, I'm a Rangers fan. I expect a blood and thunder match and a lot of trouble in the streets of Glasgow tomorrow.

I hope the police are fairer than they've been recently with excessive pressure on Rangers fans for minor issues yet leniency towards Celtic fans for behaviour which most people would consider more offensive.
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#43
Do they pronounce it SELTIC or KELTIC in Scotland?
"I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." --Thomas Jefferson

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#44
This can't be healthy. I'm actually morning the loss of mods on the PS4. Need to cut down on the gaming.
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#45
(09-09-2016, 05:57 PM)Lester C Wrote:  This can't be healthy. I'm actually morning the loss of mods on the PS4. Need to cut down on the gaming.

Hey, I feel your pain buddy.

I remember going into panic mode when Dungeons and Dragons went from the 3.5 system to the fourth one and I realized I hated it.

For the Forgotten Realms and Ravenloft settings, it felt like losing an old friend (Actually it still feels like that).
Always be true to yourself.

Being transgender is beautiful.
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#46
So far my people are dealing with the news like adults. Gamers aren't always known for dealing with disaspointment on a rational proportionate manner. Sadly I think the Bethesda heads on this thing are male helps matters, no rallying calls of rape on this one.
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#47
....maybe I am Q after all.

Today we're arguing with a contractor over how acid resistant some supplies we're getting need to be before they're installed.
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#48
(09-09-2016, 06:26 PM)JBK405 Wrote:  ....maybe I am Q after all.

Today we're arguing with a contractor over how acid resistant some supplies we're getting need to be before they're installed.

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Also, can you get me a good deal on an Aston Martin fully equipped?
Always be true to yourself.

Being transgender is beautiful.
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#49
I can get you a good deal on a six year old Honda Fit with 300,000 miles on it...
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#50
Hey, you know when a couple of days ago I said my voice on the phone made my life a bitch sometimes.

Yeah, I just spoke to the secretary of the notary to make an appointment for the mortgage and everything and it took about a minute for me to convince her that yes indeed I was Catherine on the phone.

So annoying and I hate to admit it, always a bruise on the ego a bit that I have to explain a part of my life that's none of their business to people I don't know.
Always be true to yourself.

Being transgender is beautiful.
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#51
(09-09-2016, 05:43 PM)AndrewCrossett Wrote:  Do they pronounce it SELTIC or KELTIC in Scotland?

Celtic are pronounced Seltic (although the Glasgow accent often makes it Sellik) but almost every other usage outside football is Keltic.

The whole cultural thing round the game is pretty much a dispute between British Protestantism and Irish Catholicism.

Rangers fans wear mainly blue colours (although generally described as red, white and blue) and the team kit consists of blue shirts, white shorts and black socks with red top sections. Their fans wave Union flags and occasionally Northern Irish flags. Their support base is mainly Protestant and often staunchly Unionist (in favour of remaining British) and Royalist.

Celtic's support base is mainly Catholics of Irish background. They wear green and white hooped (horizontal striped) shirts and white shorts with socks that are either hooped or white. Their fans often wave Irish flags and tend to have republican sympathies.

There is a long history of hatred and the fans sing songs which are offensive and singing several of them can get you immediately arrested nowadays including some that were considered among the most popular for years.

People wearing team colours have been killed before and the fans have frequently fought before, during and after games although usually not during the games in more recent years.

While there are only four scheduled games a season plus any cup meetings, the fans are at each other's throats 24/7.

The rivalry permeates through all of Scottish society and it is venomous.

The symbolism and rivalry of the two footballing tribes has basically replaced actual religious rivalry and the proxy war of football has replaced the blood splattered Williamite and Jacobean skirmishes of history.

Rangers have been out of top level football for four years after going bankrupt but the actual playing licence was transferred to the new company, preserving the history of the club, although Celtic fans constantly argue otherwise despite the Scottish, European and World governing bodies all acknowledging the continued existence of Rangers as the original entity.

The hatred and bigotry of the clubs can be terrifying.

There was a long standing rule at Rangers that Roman Catholic players did not play for the club (after WWI mainly) although a small number of players were Catholic. In 1989, this changed as an ex Celtic player named Mo Johnston arrived at Rangers after having said on TV that he was coming back to Celtic but the Rangers manager contacted his agent and confirmed that he had NOT signed for them.

He was unveiled at Ibrox and the longstanding tradition of no Catholics was over. It was actually a falsehood that it was an all Protestant team as Jewish and Muslim players had played as well as the first high profile black signing by a Scottish club in Mark Walters had turned out for the club (and received disgusting abuse as a result) and while Celtic did not have an official policy of not signing Protestants and in fact some of their most prominent players were Protestants, several have mentioned that their faith was an issue and they often received poor treatment, especially going back as far as the 1950s. Celtic were founded by a Catholic monk and were founded to be a charitable organisation originally but very quickly became commercialised and blatantly broke rules on paying players during the amateur and actually stole players from other clubs in their early days and were noted for very controversial business practices as late as the 1950s when it was well known that falsified crowd figures and suchlike were common.

The negative attitude towards Celtic helped grow the popularity of Rangers, who were an older club by 16 years and were a strong but not all powerful side and their closeness to the Govan shipyards helped increase crowds but an influx of Northern Irish Protestant shipyard workers at the start of the 20th century grew the Protestant identity of Rangers and created the vicious rivalry of today.

I actually hate the hostility of the atmosphere and find it horrible to watch.

Rangers and Celtic played at the neutral National Stadium, Hampden, in last season's Scottish Cup semi final as Rangers defeated Celtic in a penalty shootout after a 2-2 draw despite Rangers still having been in the second tier Championship at the time, which they won to return to the Premiership.

So far, Rangers have won 2 and drew 2 games while Celtic have won 3 which gives Celtic a one point lead with a game extra to play but with 3 points on the line, momentum can shift.

Celtic are considered favourites in most circles but I actually feel Rangers have a stronger overall team and I think the weakness of the Rangers defence has been overstated as Celtic have a weak midfield and a shaky defence themselves. Rangers actually played Celtic off the park last season and the 2-2 result massively flattered Celtic as it could have been 4-0 on the amount of play Rangers had.

Both clubs have strengthened in the summer but I think the loaded midfield of Rangers could make the difference.

The war of words between English midfielder Joey Barton of Rangers and Scott Brown of Celtic has got out of hand a little and people are questioning if the sometimes out of control Barton will avoid a physical confrontation with Brown. Some people are expecting an actual brawl on the field and Barton would win that one.

It is at Celtic Park and there will be a hostile atmosphere but I just have a gut feeling Rangers will get the win and turn the very young season on its head.
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#52
So which team do atheists support?
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“Fascism should rightly be called corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power.” --Benito Mussolini
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#53
Wales?
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#54
(09-09-2016, 10:28 PM)AndrewCrossett Wrote:  So which team do atheists support?

Partick Thistle.

Partick Thistle are the alternative team in Glasgow. They're members of the Premier League but unlike the other three Glasgow teams (Rangers that play at the 50,000 capacity Ibrox Stadium, Celtic who play at the 60,000 capacity Celtic Park and the small amateur team Queen's Park who play at Hampden Park, the national stadium which holds 52,000 due to a history of owning the ground as they were the most powerful team in the earliest days of Scottish football) while Partick Thistle play at 12,000 capacity Firhill Stadium and are normally a 'yo yo' team that bounce between the top two divisions, going up and down between divisions regularly.

I hate the religious crap attached to football here to be honest.

Outside the two big teams, the Old Firm, Edinburgh has a history of religious inclination towards football clubs too, with Hibernian, as the name implies, had Irish influence while Edinburgh's Protestants flocked to Heart of Midlothian, a club which was formed by members of a DANCING club! In Edinburgh, there are fans that have more of a geographical inclination than any sort of religious and political inclination.

Dundee and Dundee United used to be seen as slightly the same way, with Dundee United having a previous background as Dundee Hibernian while Dundee was seen as being midly leaning against the Irish background of United but certainly not comparable to Rangers or even Hearts.

There are other clubs with obvious religious and political leanings even semi pro 'junior' teams where some of the teams in the Protestant heartlands of Ayrshire wear colours like blue, white and red or kits with orange, a colour related to the Netherlands and King William III, a Dutch born king that prevented Britain from being taken back by Catholic monarchy and he was the inspiration for the Orange Order, a Protestant organisation that hold parades which can be controversial while some other clubs wear green colours and have names with heavily Catholic connections like St Rochs.

The Scottish school system is very divided too, with a mixture of Catholic schools and Non Denominational schools which are generally secular in nature but religious services are presided over by Presbyterian ministers and 80% or more of the students are normally of at least nominal Protestant background. The divisions are rather ludicrous, with two schools often build next to each other, even to the extent of sharing a campus where the outside of the school has the same fencing but generally there is no way to go from one building to the other directly and they are entirely separate in terms of how they operate.

I personally disapprove of religious schools entirely because I feel they are the main source of bigotry in the country and the fact that most schools are non denominational often illustrates that all schools could easily cope with this but it would still be possible to have religious education. I feel trying to push a specific emphasis on to education is a bit crazy nowadays and why an English or Geography teacher should need to belong to a specific denomination is a complete mystery. I'd have no issue with denominational teachers coming in to teach children in religious classes as long as a few options were available for those that wish to participate.

Building two schools with entirely separate mechanisms next to each other is an idiotic waste of money and resources though and often breeds distrust and even hatred.

I remember going to a non denominational school called Ladyburn as a child and next door there was a Catholic school called St Mungo's and the kids used to throw stones, bottles, dirt and whatever else they could get their hands on. I can remember teachers being hit with stones on our side and apparently a group of nuns were hit with plastic bottles filled with dirt and stones one day on the other side of the wall.

That sort of thing was common and you really have to think that if those kids went into the same school they wouldn't have that hatred.

Btw, my avatar is the badge used on the Rangers shirt, with the five stars each representing ten national titles.
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#55
Well, I had an impromptu foray into Hoboken starting at 10PM last night.

That was unexpected.
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#56
Rangers have lost 4-1 to Celtic in the Old Firm game today. They were a total mess. Looked solid in defence in the first half then conceded a sloppy goal from a corner, before letting a second in with wobbly defending. A goal was pulled back prior to half time and the start of the second half looked promising but one central defender limped off and the other was sent off in his first appearance. An absolute disgrace. There were only a few flurries of attacking play on the break but not the prolonged periods of passing play from Rangers that they were able to use against Celtic last time round and instead an overly defensive team sat back repeatedly and only threatened on occasion. Almost all the new players in the side were terrible apart from the goalscorer, Joe Garner.
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#57
I just found out that Celtic got a fifth in the dying seconds. An absolute embarrassment.

I think they'll be serious violence in Glasgow tonight and it wouldn't surprise me if there were several murders as they occasionally happen around these games.

This has been boiling up for a while and I think there will definitely be a lot of serious trouble. I can actually hear police cars around here at the moment and I'm 8 miles away but the pubs all show the games. My local pub is generally recognised as a Rangers pub.
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#58
Stay safe tonight Weeto.
Life is like a roller coaster.  It has its ups and downs, but if you sit back and relax you get one heck of a ride.

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Equality is not a loss.
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#59
(09-10-2016, 01:43 PM)JBK405 Wrote:  Stay safe tonight Weeto.

Safe in my house 8 miles down the road in a relatively quiet town.

Sometimes the trouble doesn't really boil up. I think most of the problems tend to be in very tight games where a contentious decision causes arguements.

I'm watching my little cousin (well, actually my cousin's son) play rugby league for Leigh Centurions and his club are playing a playoff series game which if they win, will result in the club going to the Super League for next season, the top league in European Rugby League. They're winning easily 48-16 over Huddersfield Giants with 28 minutes to go and it would take a miracle to stop them going up to the big time. The club has shown a lot of ambition and Liam Hood joined from Salford Red Devils at the beginning of the season after he turned down a move to an Australian club.
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#60
I'm reading in the park, and a woman just walked over to tell me how much Jesus loves me.
Life is like a roller coaster.  It has its ups and downs, but if you sit back and relax you get one heck of a ride.

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Equality is not a loss.
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